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Re: Non-polairty

From:Remi Villatel <maxilys@...>
Date:Thursday, June 30, 2005, 22:26
Sai Emrys wrote:

> So in this case: non-duality / non-polarity / etc. Or another way to > put it - analogy / continuous scales.
> The problem: there are too many words that reference what are actually > (multi-dimensional?) (infinite?) spectra as if they were two (or more, > but finite) points.
> E.g.: Good/bad. Old/young. Rich/poor. Etc.
We already had a thread about this last year (March 2004): http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0403d&L=conlang&F=&S=&P=2455
> More, I would like to have some sort of grammatical and elegant way of > having a *continuous* spectrum. I don't object to having reference > points along the way (e.g. for color or temperature), just to having > voids inbetween.
> Any suggestions?
Well, Shaquelingua has definitively evolved since last year so I'll try to explain the shaquean concept of linearity in a different way. Shaquelingua has a long scale of prefixes with 9 levels from one end to the other end and a short scale with 3 levels when it comes to express opposites but with much less detail. They are called "linear variators". ("ã" is a+macron, "ē" is e+macron, "õ" is o+macron.) dõ fõ gē xē <--| rã |--> çe se pi kli ......da...... <--| () |--> ......ku....... "rã" is the median point and "dõ" and "kli" are the extremes/superlatives. "da" and "ku" gather all the prefixes of their side of the scale. The empty prefix is used only in interrogative sentences. I don't say if "dõ" and "kli" are negative/positive or less/more because, sometimes, there are but, sometimes, they aren't. The objective opposites like small/tall, cold/ward, short/long, etc are always ordered the same way. "dõ" means extremely few of the units in which these objectives values are measured and "kli" means extremly a lot. So "da" is the negative side and "ku" is the positive one. The median point "rã" either means "in between", or "unspecified", or else "whatever" or "more or less". Some examples of measurable concepts: /dapjöki/ <--| /pjöki/ |--> /kupjöki/ cold <--| temperature |--> warm /dõpjõki/ <--| /rãpjõki/ |--> /klipjõki/ freezing cold <--| tepid |--> burning hot /datevei/ <--| /tevei/ |--> /kutevei/ short <--| length |--> long /datsõj/ <--| /tsõj/ |--> /kutsõj/ young <--| age |--> old /davizaj/ <--| /vizaj/ |-> /kuvizaj/ short time <--| duration |-> long time The close-far concept goes also in this category. You can always measure a distance. Some examples of positive/negative or simply opposite concepts: /dabisiu/ <--| /bisiu/ |--> /kubisiu/ ordinary <--| ??? |--> strange/extraordinary /daçērite/ <--| /çērite/ |--> /kuçērite/ expendable <--| value |--> precious without value <--| |--> valueable /dafãdõy/ <--| < /fãdõy/ |--> /kufãdõy/ unreality <--| ??? |--> reality lie <--| |--> truth /davurif/ <--| /vurif/ |--> /kuvurif/ partial <--| completion |--> total /dazuthte/ <--| /zuthte/ |--> /kuzuthte/ narrow <--| ??? |--> wide The empty/full-ness fits in this category. In Shaquelingua you can't oppose half empty with half full. You'd rather oppose /xētlēku/ with /çetlēku/. Justice is also linear (from unfair to fair), so are agitated-calm, sickness-health, etc. I didn't include a bad-good linear concept because I dislike these two words. They mean nothing... or rather too many things depending on context: in-/correct, non-/conform to law/morale/ethic/expected behavior, dis-/agreable, un-/pleasant, and so on. Some more examples of con-culturally linear concepts: /dabosir/ <--| < /bosir/ |--> /kubosir/ constraint <--| ??? |--> freedom /dõçtai/ /xēçtai/ | /çtai/ | /çeçtai/ /kliçtai/ saucer plate | dish | platter tray /datēefi/ <--| < /tēefi/ |--> /kutēefi/ spread <--| group |--> grouped scattered <--| |--> gathered /dadãkadã/ <--| < /dãkadã/ |--> /kudãkadã/ pride <--| ??? |--> modesty /dazõrhgã/ <--| < /zõrhgã/ |--> /kuzõrhgã/ superficiality <--| intensity |--> depth There are a lot of such linear concepts in Shaquelingua, like hint-proof, negligeable-important, exposed-protected, belief-certitude, and so on. These linear variators also apply to the quantifiers (more than articles), so indirectly to the pronouns. They can also be part of the conjugation... Well, of the tense/modal marking in Shaquelingua. dõxa = an absolutely tiny quantity of gēxa = a small quantity of rãxa = a medium quantity of sexa = a large quantity of klixa = an absolutely huge quantity of kliska = absolutely none of the --> kliski-çaki = absolutely none of us klikaa = absolutely all of the --> klikã-çaki = absolutely all of us pre fare pjõki va teo kõrhça ? = What is the temperature of the water? pre fare pjõki va teo kõrhça INTERROGATIVE DESCRIPTOR temperature the INDICATIVE water seteo'vaa. = It is very warm. seteo vaa LIN.VAR:INDICATIVE it And to make things much more fun, the linear variators can also be prefixed to non-linear concepts. jo kli'saçrukuro ! = (This is) Definitively a conlang! ji pi'kaçtõlu soe, [ji: pi:'ka.CdO4u so"e] (one very soon until) -- ================== Remi Villatel maxilys_@_tele2.fr ==================

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