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Re: USAGE: WOMYN (was: RE: [CONLANG] Optimum number of symbols,though mostly talking about french now

From:And Rosta <a-rosta@...>
Date:Sunday, May 26, 2002, 22:09
Tom:
> Quoting And Rosta <a-rosta@...>: > > Tom: > > > > "man" and "woman" are unique in pluralizing "men", "women", so the > > > > resemblance is morphological as well as phonological. > > > > > > I'm not entirely convinced by that. For me, the apophony in > > > the first syllable is the salient pluralizer, since the second > > > syllable's vowel would reduce to schwa whether it was an > > > underlying /&/ or underlying /E/. > > > > This is true, but it is consistent with 'woman' being 'wo+man'. > > If it is not wo+man, then you leave yourself having to say it > > is pure coincidence that wo+man is semantically and morphologically > > a viable analysis, and that the plural is not *womans. > > We're getting down to one of those infamously thorny problems in > linguistics: where to put the divide between phonology and > morphology. I don't think anyone has ever come up with a consistent > methodology to decide what belongs in what field. (It works the > other way too: when something is difficult for your field, you > do the "Linguist's punt" and put it elsewhere.)
I don't rightly see how you would tell a purely phonological story about this, but I take your general point about boundary drawing and buck passing. I also don't think that the 'correct' analysis of morphological irregulars is really a settlable question, though I think that we can legitimately ask, as Ray said, how the person in the street perceives things. --And.

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