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Of Angles and Saxons and Lloegrwys

From:Sally Caves <scaves@...>
Date:Thursday, December 16, 2004, 21:02
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Brown" <ray.brown@...>
>> Sally - or anyone else - do you know the origin of Lloeger? > > Well, I have heard that it comes from Legorencis Civitas, the early name > given to Leicester, but I'm a little skeptical of this etymology, > especially > since the Romans probably got the name from the Britons. Unfortunately I > don't have the Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymry here at home. (What a nice > Christmas present. I'm sure it's about 500 dollars!) It may very well > give > the etymology of Lloegr. > > I can look if I go in today, which I think I will. > > Sally
Alas, Ray and others, my efforts have failed. I went yesterday to the library to use the Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru (forgive my prior misspelling: the University of Wales Dictionary) wherein I found plenty of compounds that generally mean "Englishman" for Lloegr + (Lloegrblaid, Lloegrddyn, Lloegriad, Lloegrwr, etc.) but no entry for Lloegr itself. Maybe I erred, and missed looking it up under Lloegyr, but I have rediscovered that the GPC is not generally in the habit of giving etymologies anyway. A brief concordance, but not an etymology. Sigh. Perhaps someone else can take up where I left off. Or, if the question is a serious one to be used in a study or an essay, one could write to its staff at On the editorial board are professors Sioned Davies and Brynley F. Roberts, both of whom I know. Sally