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Re: Lavatories, bathrooms,... Was: Re: Hymn to Ikea

From:John Cowan <cowan@...>
Date:Friday, February 27, 2004, 12:20
Philippe Caquant scripsit:

> I was very interested by the expression *a public bathroom*.
"Bathroom" is a North American euphemism for "toilet". This confuses other anglophones too. For us "toilet" refers to the actual plumbing fixture, not the room.
> salle de bains publique*, and I never saw such a thing anywhere.
I have seen rooms with rows and rows of bathtubs at a spa, but not anywhere else.
> I heard that in the US Army, there are rooms with dozen of holes in > front, without any separation, so people can shit and talk together > in the same time, which is certainly quite convenient.
There is however a very strong taboo against speaking to anyone, even someone you know, in an American men's bathroom. Exception: if you are speaking to someone as you come in together, you may continue the conversation. This does not at all apply to women's bathrooms!
> In French, there always have been lot of expressions to signify > 'toilets': looks like we're a little bit ashamed of our physiological > necessities: les toilettes, les W.C., le petit coin, les lieux, les > lavatories, les cabinets (seldom used nowadays), etc.
In North American English also: the men's/ladies' room, the rest room, the lavatory (but to a plumber, "lavatory" means a sink, and rightly so etymologically speaking), the (God help us!) "public comfort station". None of these are applied to rooms in houses, which are always called bathrooms. A real-estate agent will describe a bathroom without a bath or shower as a "half bath", but that term is not used in ordinary conversation. -- John Cowan jcowan@reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan Female celebrity stalker, on a hot morning in Cairo: "Imagine, Colonel Lawrence, ninety-two already!" El Auruns's reply: "Many happy returns of the day!"

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