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Re: closet conlanging

From:Sally Caves <scaves@...>
Date:Tuesday, December 22, 1998, 7:02
Daniel J. O'Neil wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, And Rosta wrote: > > > It's curious how there is a kind of metaphorical relation between > > conlanging on the one hand and masturbation and bi/homosexuality on > the > > other (The Secret Vice, The Love that Dare Not Speak its Name). When > > some months ago there were several people posting to the list > declaring > > themselves to be bisexual teenage conlangers, and I never got round to > > > observing that bisexuality and conlanging are, like religiosity, > phases > > that many teenagers go through but few adults remain in. > > And, perhaps it's a good thing that you didn't make that observation. As > a gay man, I don't feel comfortable with the implication that my sexual > orientation is an immature phase I should "grow out of." --
> Daniel J. O'Neil > M.S. Technical Communication > Instructor, Writing to the World Wide Web > Developer, Academy of Electronic Media > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute > -- > email: oneild@rpi.edu > home: http://www.rpi.edu/~oneild > WWWW: http://www.rpi.edu/~oneild/wwww
Hi Dan... thank you for your heartfelt reminder. But actually, I had taken And's remark not so much as a criticism expressing his personal views as a reiteration of a truisim about outside opinion. And is more aware of the audience he writes for than that... there have been numerous and sensitive discussions on this list about the relationship of conlanging and the closet and the actually high number of gay people on this list. The certain kind of narrow opinion that keeps all us adult conlangers from revealing what we do to most outsiders (lest we be called adolescent) exerts a similar (though by no means as oppressive) a force on our silence as homophobia does. At least that's how I had interpreted And's remark. It has to be a truism, because nobody could take seriously the notion that religiosity is a primarily adolescent phase. Just look at religious America and all its implicated adults, and that's one nation out of many, and only one religion out of many! I suppose a better way of putting it would have been for And to say "...`that it is often thought that' many teenagers go through but few adults remain in." Remember that And too is implicated, as an adult, in the "adolescent" pursuit of conlanging. Everybody--we're all in this together. We're all doing something that few TEENAGERS do, actually! Yes, I find it much harder to tell my colleagues that I invent languages than to tell them that I write science fiction stories on the side. They can understand the latter (the market value of genre fiction), but not the former (obsessive passion given to a pursuit that doesn't earn one either tenure or money).. To describe it to them in terms of a kind of "closet"--now that they WILL understand, paradoxically, because at least amongst liberal academics, there is some sympathy for marginal groups and for gays and lesbians. Sally http://www.frontiernet.net/~scaves