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THEORY: [Re: THEORY: Historical linguistics, and soundlaws]

From:Edward Heil <edwardheil@...>
Date:Friday, March 26, 1999, 21:02
"Raymond A. Brown" <raybrown@...> wrote:
> At 2:12 am -0500 26/3/99, Nik Taylor wrote: > >"Raymond A. Brown" wrote: > >> All the evidence is that it was trilled much like the modern Italian=
, Scots
> >> & Welsh /r/. > > > >What evidence would that be? Is it merely that the trill is the most > >probable ancestor of the various Romance r's? > =
> Well that is strongish evidence: Romanian, Italian & the various Iberia=
> Romances have the trilled apical /r/ and so does quite of southern Fran=
> But there is other evidence also which, unfortunately, I don't have to > hand, from the ancient writers themselves when describing the sound. > Although neither the Greeks or the Romans ever approached the > sophistication of Sanskrit grammarians, they did give some useful insig=
> into their language. > =
As I remember, the description of the sound is "like a dog growling." So= unds trilled to me! The evidence which rules out uvular trills I don't rememb= er off the top of my head. Speaking of French Rs, as I remember, Haitian French/Creole seemed to me = to change the uvular R to a labial approximant (w), so that it took me forev= er to realize that the fellow whose name was pronounced "On-Wee" was "Henri." Ed ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at 1