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Re: Saalangal stuff

From:Barry Garcia <barry_garcia@...>
Date:Friday, December 7, 2001, 6:03
Roger Mills writes:

>We were given similar advice when learning Indonesian-- which also avoids >the 1st per. sing. pronoun like the plague. All pronouns are omitted >whenever possible. When speaking to or about "superiors", there are >deferential forms, though I suspect younger speakers may be getting away >from that.
Interesting! I wonder, does Indonesian use triggers at all? From what i've read i cant tell. I found one site that seemed to show that word order shows the emphasis. Anyhow, it's quite understandable in Saalangal. I mean, even in English where the focus can be shown from intonation, it sounds strong and accusative. I guess the agent trigger could be comsidered something like an accusative also. From what i've read Tagalog also avoids using the agent trigger as much as possible, preferring the patient triggers more often. The other three triggers arent used quite as much (beneficiary, instrumental, locative). But they do find their way into speech and literature from time to time (in literature, the agent trigger is used quite a bit).