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Re: Stress and vowel length in Tirelat

From:David J. Peterson <dedalvs@...>
Date:Sunday, August 17, 2008, 20:41
Herman Miller:
The absence of CV:CV: seems to need an explanation, but it could be a
shortening of vowels in unstressed syllables.

I don't think so, necessarily.  It could be as simple as you can't
have two long vowels in the same stem--or prosodic word, if
you like.  After all, didn't Ancient Greek have a prohibition on
too many aspirated consonants in a row?

Many of the CV:CV in the current language can be traced back to words
that were CVCV in older versions of Tirelat, so the inconsistent
lengthening may be little more than inconsistent documentation.

Ah.  Well, now we've stepped out of the fictional history of the
language and into the real history of the language.

But part of that is due to lengthening vowels deliberately to get the
stress patterns that I wanted.

This, of course, is a byproduct of exactly what I was suggesting:
length attracts stress in this language, and not the other way
around.  :)

With the three-syllable words, 'CVCVCV is common; CV'CV:CV and
CVCV'CV: are less common, but also exist.

No Finnish CV:CVCV?

I suspect there are elements of both stress accent and vowel length
in this distinction, and that one or the other may be more prominent
in different circumstances...

If you really want to figure out what's going on so you can
faithfully reproduce it in future lexemes, what you have to do
is subject your corpus to a corpus analysis.  Everything must
be marked for stress and length, and then, just analyze that
puppy up and see what's what.  It's hard to analyze something
with only a few tokens.

"sunly eleSkarez ygralleryf ydZZixelje je ox2mejze."
"No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn."

-Jim Morrison