Re: OT: reality (wasRe: Atlantean)

Gary Shannon wrote:

>--- Axiem <axiem@...> wrote:
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>>Corrolary:
>>If more than 50 people percieve the same object, we
>>can conclude that any
>>person will percieve that object, as well.
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>Assuming that there is such a thing as "50 other
>people."  Since your perception of the existence of 50
>other people exists in your mind it could well be an
>illusion.
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>Last night I dremt I was at a party with at least 50
>other people.  But where are those 50 people now?
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>If, while in a dream, I used your argument on another
>character in my dream would that make my dream
>objectively real?
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>Can I prove the existence of "waking reality" to a
>character I meet in my dream?  He might ask where this
>imaginary place called waking reality is located.  I
>surely couldn't point it out to him from within the
>dream.
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>What if you awoke for this dream you call reality and
>discovered that it was inded a dream and that the 50
>other people you were dreaming of have no objective
>reality?
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Things may not be objectively real, but they can be subjectively real.
Atlantis is not, to me, subjectively real, and as you're not objectively
real, you can't argue with me, and your opinions are irrelevant.