Re: Consonants as source of vowels
| From: | Philip Newton <philip.newton@...> |
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| Date: | Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 6:39 |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:19:24 +0200, Isaac Penzev <isaacp@...> wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 12:37 PMPablo Flores
> <pablodavidflores@...> wrote:
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> > Gah! Thanks for the correction. Still, */nit/ > /il/ is almost as weird.
> > :)
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> What about nit > nitK) > niK > nil > n_jil > jil > il ?
No idea, but Japanese -chi/-tsu (from early Chinese -t?) regulary
corresponds with Korean -l.
> > Where does "Rben" come from?
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> In Pinyin, it is 'Ribeng'.
"ri4ben3", as Henrik pointed out.
> Mandarin 'ribeng', Japanese 'nippon', Korean 'ilbeong'. All the same.
And Korean "ilbon" -- with "o" in the second syllable, not "eo" (and
no final -ng there, either).
Cantonese "yat-pun", I believe, showing the original final -t (though
there's no audible release in Cantonese, and it may sound like glottal
stop to English speakers). (Some say this is the origin of the English
name "Japan", via Dutch where |j| is /j/.)
Cheers,
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Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>