Re: Palatal Trills, Taps, and Flaps

On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 09:49:50AM +0200, Julien Eychenne wrote:
> As far as I know, there is no palatal trill/flap neither in IPA nor in
> SAMPA.
Apparently not.  One of several examples of sounds attested in real
languages that don't have a symbol.  I don't know why they don't just
go ahead and fill out all of those 19 blank spaces on the chart which
aren't considered anatomically impossible.

I would personally like to see official IPA-sanctioned symbols
for labiodental plosives.  These sounds have been found in African
langauges and the linguists working on those languages seem to use
ligatures of /qp/ (voiceless) and /db/ (voiced) for those sounds.
I assume they're missing from the IPA even though attested because
they haven't been found to contrast with /p/ and /b/ in any language.
Probably a similar story with the bilabial approximant, which so far
seems to be just an allophonic variant of /w/ or /B/.

-Mark