Re: News and a phonology or two...
From: | Daniel A. Wier <dawier@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, January 4, 2000, 10:39 |
Welcome back.
>(is r`_r the same as j\ ? I'm not sure. Maybe it's the same as j\_a ?)
They might be close, but probably not the same. The first (r`_r) involves
retroflexion; the other (j\) is not.
>Is it wildly unrealistic for a human (IE) lang to have all four pairs
>/s/,/z/ /S/,/Z/ /s`/,/z`/ and /C/,/j\/ as separate phonemes?
Unlikely but not impossible at all. I reckon certain Caucasian languages
may have all eight.
>Vowels:
>As yet undecided. Probably either simply i,a,u or somewhere around 15-20
>vowels. Depends how confident I feel describing vowels phonetically...
>(usually not very!)
It's best to build like this: start with the basic vowel triangle of i-a-u.
Fill in the spaces: i-e-a-o-u, with y (high central unrounded or rounded)
between i and u. That's six so far. Or build a triangle of ten, arranged
like bowling pins:
i 1 } u (and I'm using X-SAMPA like you are)
e @ o
E O
a
Then, make your back rounded vowels have front rounded counterparts, and
your front unrounded vowels should have back counterparts. So ten becomes
sixteen when you add:
y W (X-SAMPA doesn't have the high back rounded vowel!)
2 7
9 V
And the lowest vowel a could be fronted to { and backed to A or Q. That's
eighteen vowels! Tense-lax distinction makes up to 36, and that's not
counting short-long, oral-nasal and tones...
You'd be hard-pressed to find a natural language with over 20 vowel
qualities (but if you include *quantities*, that's a different tale to
tell).
Danny
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