Re: OT: Of Angles and Saxons

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:48, Ray Brown wrote:
> On Saturday, December 11, 2004, at 08:22 , Sally Caves wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andreas Johansson" <andjo@...>
> > To: <CONLANG@...>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 11:27 AM
> > Subject: OT: Of Angles and Saxons
> >
> [snip]
>
> > There are entries, too, for the Suthseaxe, but I'm too hurried to look it
> > up. Your source is totally mistaken.
>
> Suthseaxe - my native 'kingdom'  :)
> Yes, its name is most certainly pre-conquest.
>
> Another obvious pointer to the pre-conquest use of the name is that Welsh
> called the English "Saxons" way before the conquest and still call us
> 'Saxons' to the present day:
> Sais (an Englishman) ~ pl. Saeson
> Saesnes (an English woman) ~ pl. Saesnesau
> Saesneg [noun] English [language]
> Seisnig [adjective] English
>
> 'England' is,however, 'Lloegr', a more ancient name an one which, I
> believe, was once given to the whole island, to show that the Saxons are
> native to the land but invaders/ settlers    :)
>
> Sally - or anyone else - do you know the origin of Lloeger?
I've always connected it with the god Lugh, in a sense of "Lugh's land".  I'm
probably wrong. ;)
>
> Ray
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