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Re: Essentialist Khangaþyagon?

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Thursday, September 11, 2003, 5:32
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 12:51 , Peter Bleackley wrote:

> I've been looking at Essentialist Explantations again, and was wondering > if > anybody could come up with one for Khangaþyagon. Here's a quick sample, > with pronunciation, gloss, and translation. > > samang ya leshnam iðuzhang ya karrkakar > [s&m&N j& leSn&m, iDu:Z&N j& ka:rk&ka:4] > go.1p.pt 1p east.to see.1p.pt 1p raven.pl > I went to the east, I saw the ravens > beb enbanar subanar u elldahingar yir beb oltokdahingar yir > [beb enb&na:4 su:b&na:4 u: el:d&hiNa:4 ji4 beb oltokd&hiNa:4 ji4] > and thing.this.pl all.this.pl "such that" new.be.3p.pt.pl 3p.pl and > busy.be.3p.pt.pl 3p.pl > And all those things that were new and busy. > samang ya hashnam, iðuzhang ya issulir > [s&m&N j& h&Sn&m, iDu:Z&N j& is:uli:4] > go.1p.pt 1p west.to see.1p.pt 1p egret.pl > I went to the west, I saw the egrets > beb enbanar subanar u futodahingar yir beb þomadahingar yir > [beb enb&na:4 su:b&na:4 u: fu:tod&hiNa:4 ji4 beb To:m&d&hiNa:4 ji4] > and thing.this.pl all.this.pl "such that" old.be.3p.pt.pl 3p.pl and > calm.be.3p.pt.pl 3p.pl > And all those things that were old and calm. > > The language has been described as sounding like Welsh. One Welsh speaker > I > know denies this.
I'm afraid, having lived in Wales for 22 years, and still having connexions there, I agree with that Welsh speaker. /Z/, /&/ and /4/ are distinctly non-Welsh. As for an "is essentially" - I'm too tired at the end of the day to think of something witty - sorry :( But I have read it through several times, pronouncing it carefully and it doesn't immediately resemble any particular natlang. It has IMO a very distinct character of its own, which in my book is a distinct plus. All I can say is that Khangaþyagon is essentially itself. Ray =============================================== ray.brown@freeuk.com (home) raymond.brown@kingston-college.ac.uk (work) http://home.freeuk.com/ray.brown ===============================================