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Re: Uber newbie-conlanger conlang

From:Mike Ellis <nihilsum@...>
Date:Tuesday, March 15, 2005, 22:59
Sai Emrys wrote:

>One of the people in my class is doing a conlang that, in the >conculture, is meant to be a somewhat kludgy conlang. > >If you think of this a bit, what this means is essentially one of the >goals is to be as much like a newbie's conlanger as possible... but >more so. Almost, one could say, a parody thereof? > >So: Advice? What would you want to do to not grow out of, but *build >upon* all those newbie's mistakes you've made?
- English orthography! Use <a e i o u> for /ei/ /i/ /ai/ /ou/ /ju/... SOMEtimes. Don't explain when <e> would be /E/ and when /i/; it's obvious anyway, right?. - Use c and x in your orthography but don't say what for. - Forbid certain clusters in the introductory section but keep using them in the vocab lists etc. - Use your "object marker" after the verb "be". - Completely calquing English is one idea, but the job's not done unless you insist the result "is simple because it has no grammar". - make your plural marker the raspberry. Do not use this sound anywhere else. - apostrophes anywhere with no function -- just for looks. Mistakes I've made: - come up with your Roman orthography before you know which characters can be displayed properly on computers. Keep the language on paper only for a few years so the orthography becomes ingrained enough that you can't change it and are forced to make a noncanonical one using apostrophes. - attach all inflections to a word other than the one to which their function applies (some of this survives). - calque Japanese (may that conlang never see the light of day again!)
>(This is presumably somewhat different than merely the opposite of the >"naturalism" goal, though that's a good starting point.)
I think it's a great starting point! The only parody-langs I've seen so far are short sketches of fake Euroclones and hypersimplified IALs. Sally Caves wrote:
> 7) Having picked up a book like Comrie's, decide that you're going to make > it ergative, and that you're going to get rid of the verb at the same time. > :) This will take some planning, so it's a clean erase, and back to the > blackboard.
Hey, that's Omurax! M