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Re: On the subject of idioms ...

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Monday, November 14, 2005, 22:22
Quoting Roger Mills <rfmilly@...>:

> Andreas Johansson wrote: > > In Meghean it's considered nifty and sophisticated to refer to abstract > > concepts > > by mentioning two related concrete things instead. So, one might say > > _conich oa > > teoa_ "spear and fire" for "war", or _inde oa mañha_ "coin and ship" for > > trade. > > Very nice!! I wish I'd thought of that......... > > > > Is there a name for this sort of idiom? It's a case of pars pro toto > > (partes pro > > toto?), but is there something more specific? > > > I know it has a name, but... I thought it was _antonomasia_ or > _paronomasia_; the first is possible though not quite... according to AHD it > means the use of a title, or name, to describe a person or class of people > (e.g. "Your/His/Her Majesty", or calling a traitor a "Benedict Arnold"); but > other sources suggest it might be the use of attributes to refer to a > whole-- so yours would count. (Paronomasia refers to punning...........) > > Oh never mind. It's metonymy; see-- > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metonymy > > Well, OTOH...scroll down a bit in that entry; it might also be synecdoche > > Hope this helps :-}
Yes, it does. My thanks. I don't, however, think it fits the definition of synecdoche - tho a spear may be used in war, it's hardly a _part_ of the abstract concept "war". I suppose that one could call it "dual metonymy" to specify this particular kind of expression. Andreas