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Re: 10 sentences...

From:Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Date:Saturday, October 21, 2006, 7:38
On 10/21/06, Amanda Babcock Furrow <langs@...> wrote:
> http://www.quandary.org/~langs/10sentences.html
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> can anybody offer corrections or suggestions to the lojban or Esperanto > sentences?
The Lojban you have (le cifnu na kakne tavla) is something like "The infant does not capably-talk". (In technical terms: "kakne" and "tavla" are forming a tanru.) You probably want something more along the lines of {le cifnu na kakne le nu tavla} (in the "dialect" you wrote the sentence in; I'd probably write it as {lo cifnu na kakne lo nu tavla} with {lo} instead of {le}, according to (my understanding of) the "xorlo" proposal). That would be something like "It is not the fact that: the infant is capable of the event of speaking". Or, with a slightly different negation: {lo cifnu cu na'e kakne lo nu tavla} "The infant is not capable of the event of speaking" (expressing the negative rather than denying the affirmative). Or perhaps even this, using a modal rather than a negation: {lo cifnu cu nu'o kakne lo nu tavla} "The infant is (potentially/innately) able to talk but has not yet done so/has not yet realised this potential". mu'o mi'e .filip. (Over [I have finished talking; you can respond now]; I am Philip -- the way I usually "sign off" my emails in or about Lojban) -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>