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Re: Clauses, etc

From:Jeff Jones <jeffsjones@...>
Date:Friday, February 1, 2002, 0:15
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:19:08 -0500, Joel <supercooljoel@...> wrote:

> Yes, it is that guy that hides in the depths of the list, I had to change > my email address unfortunately. > >I never really understood fully clauses and that sort of grammar, so in my >unseeing blindness, i attempted to construct a clause system. Basically, >you enclose the clause in "" if I am trying to say, "The man that >john hit yesterday is angry" Using that in English is should turn out to be >"Nihk The man john his yesterday il is angry". You follow? I hope I've got >the right idea with clauses here. > >Any help or criticism is helpful, be reminded, I have NO idea what I'm >talking about! > >- Joel Heikkila
Hi Joel AFMCL, adding to what others have said: in MNCL, relative clauses start with the relative pronoun {y-} and end with a pronoun {d-}, as in: Zo (man)o ya (John)u (hit)e (yesterday)i da (angry)ize. "The man [whom] John hit yesterday is angry". (note: I'm using more or less the English word order (and words) for ease of reading; MNCL changes the word order within a phrase or phrase order within a clause according to focus/emphasis and other considerations) This can be broken down as: Z-o (man)-o y-a (John)-u (hit)-e (yesterday)-i d-a (angry)-iz-e DEF-QUAL (V)-QUAL REL-ABS (V)-ERG (V)-PRED (V)-OBL SCT-ABS (V)-PRS-PRED DEF anaphoric pronoun/determiner (definite article in this case) REL relative pronoun SCT subordinate clause terminator (V) a general vocabulary item PRS present tense QUAL this word qualifies what follows directly ABS absolutive case ERG ergative case OBL oblique case; used for adverbial stuff PRED predicative or essive "case"; the syntactic verb Does this help? Jeff