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Re: About persons

From:jesse stephen bangs <jaspax@...>
Date:Tuesday, May 22, 2001, 21:35
dirk elzinga sikayal:

I noticed something odd in the Uto-Aztecan data you gave here, Dirk.  Tell
me if I'm right:

> Shoshoni (1 is speaker, 2 is listener, and 3 is neither): > sg du pl > 1+2 ---- taweh tammen > Chemehuevi > 1+2 ---- tami tawe
It looks to me like /tami/ is cognate to /tammen/, and /tawe/ to /taweh/, which suggests that some of these forms have switched from dual to plural over time. Or has one of the languages used an innovative ending that only coincidentally resembles the endings used in the other language? I think that they actually switched, because of the following data:
> Shoshoni > 1+3 ne neweh nemmen > 2 en meweh memmen > 3 suten suteweh suteen > Chemehuevi > 1+3 nee nemi > 2 emi memi > 3anim iNa ime here > maNa mame visible > uNa ume invisible
Here Ch. -mi or -me, which appear cognate to Sh. -men, always appear as the plural, suggesting that the use of this same ending for dual in the 1st person is anomalous. Am I right? Jesse S. Bangs jaspax@u.washington.edu "If you look at a thing nine hundred and ninety-nine times, you are perfectly safe; if you look at it the thousandth time, you are in frightful danger of seeing it for the first time." --G.K. Chesterton

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