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Re: CHAT Celtic alphabet? (was: An incongruent orthography: Maggel)

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Monday, April 8, 2002, 6:37
En réponse à Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>:

> > The _Celtic_ alphabet? >
Yep, I know it's not the right name. I just didn't know the name of that script derived from the Roman alphabet.
> > Do you mean the ogham script dating from the 4th cent. AD and used > till > about the middle of the 7th cent. AD? Although oghamic inscription > are > found in Wales as well as the Isle of Man, Scotland & Ireland, the > language > is always Old Irish (the Irish ruled north Wales for some time before > the > Welsh manage to free themselves). It is purely Irish invention, not > Celtic. >
No, it's not the ogham, at least as far as I know.
> > Or do you mean the 'New Irish Script' whose 18 letters are, of course, > derived from the Roman alphabet?
Probably yes! But this is hardly Celtic! OK, I misunderstood the extension of its use :(( . My own
> _English_ (i.e. Germanic) ancestors were using a very similar alphabet > (the > so-called 'Anglo-Saxon hand'), with a few extra letters, until your > lot > came over in 1066 and supplanted it with the continental minuscules used > by > your Norman scribes. >
And don't forget civilisation, going naturally with Norman French :))) (just a joke of course :)) )
> One should speak more properly of the'Insular script' used on the > islands > of Britain & Ireland for writing both Old English and Old Irish. True, > it > was developed in Ireland and spread to Britain as the Old English > accepted > Christianity; but the Irish had developed it from the so-called > half-uncial > of west and southern Gaul. But the script is also found in some > Egyptian > papyri and probably developed from the Roman uncial script somewhere > in > north Africa. >
Wow! Interesting history. I didn't know this script originated in fact that far! I guess it's the script I meant. You know, the one where letters look so round :)) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>CHAT Celtic alphabet? (was: An incongruent orthography