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Re: laterals (was: Pharingials, /l/ vs. /r/ in Southeast Asia)

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Tuesday, February 10, 2004, 20:04
Javier BF wrote:
> Another pair of flaws to add to the heap.
Yes, but are there any languages that make a *phonemic* distinction between "lateral stop" and [t]? If so, then it is a flaw. Otherwise, however, it's not really a flaw, as a design principle in the IPA is only distinguishing sounds that are contrasted in at least some languages. If, on the other hand, they only occur in the affricate [tK], then there's no need to make a special character, *especially* if the "normal" [t] does not occur. Actually, from hearing those Haida sounds, I suspect what you mean by "lateral stop" is "stop with *lateral release*", which is indicated in the IPA by a superscript l.
> Sorry, that was an error of mine, because > the normal laterals (I mean, the usual ones) are of > course the approximant ones; unlike the normal rhotics > which are plosive
Are you counting taps/trills as "plosive"? Because that's what most rhotics are. And AFAIK, those aren't normally counted as plosives/stops. -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42