Re: laterals (was: Pharingials, /l/ vs. /r/ in Southeast Asia)
From: | Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, February 10, 2004, 20:04 |
Javier BF wrote:
> Another pair of flaws to add to the heap.
Yes, but are there any languages that make a *phonemic* distinction
between "lateral stop" and [t]? If so, then it is a flaw. Otherwise,
however, it's not really a flaw, as a design principle in the IPA is
only distinguishing sounds that are contrasted in at least some
languages. If, on the other hand, they only occur in the affricate
[tK], then there's no need to make a special character, *especially* if
the "normal" [t] does not occur.
Actually, from hearing those Haida sounds, I suspect what you mean by
"lateral stop" is "stop with *lateral release*", which is indicated in
the IPA by a superscript l.
> Sorry, that was an error of mine, because
> the normal laterals (I mean, the usual ones) are of
> course the approximant ones; unlike the normal rhotics
> which are plosive
Are you counting taps/trills as "plosive"? Because that's what most
rhotics are. And AFAIK, those aren't normally counted as
plosives/stops.
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