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Re: 'together vs. to gather'

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Saturday, January 17, 2004, 23:05
Padraic wrote:
> In response specifically to "But how can we > conceive verbs like "to gather" or "to disperse" > without the notion of plural?" I said the above. > What I mean is that the notion of "number" has > nothing to do with the verb, because I can engage > in "gathering" without ever actually obtaining > anything. In other words, the word "gather" > refers to the action of collecting, not to the > objects collected (or their number) or the > subject collecting. >
Non-concur. As I just wrote, or should have :-(, intrans."gather" requires the patientsubj. to be a [+count +pl] noun, plus certain mass nouns; trans. "gather"s patient must be a plural, or a [-count] (mass) noun. The knights gathered vs *The knight gathered. A cloud/Clouds gathered, (The/0) water gathered..., but *A/The/0 rice gathered. *A water gathered. The king gathered his knights together vs. *The king gathered his knight together. I gathered (up) (the) coins/dust/rice vs. *I gathered (up) a coin/a dust/ a rice (Hmm, me brain is starting to hurt.......)