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Re: Copula

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 8:44
Jeff Rollin wrote:
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> > I suspect there are languages that have no passive but have free word > order, since the point of a passive is to make an object > topic-prominent.
Latin certainly had free word order and could, and quite often did, make the object topic-prominent by shifting to the front. Indeed, German, which has less free word order, can and does do the same - fronting the object before the main verb which must occupy 2nd position. But both languages find a passive useful - particularly, of course, where the agent is unimportant or unknown. German can use an active with the subject 'man' (Like French 'on') where English would normally use a passive, and the Romance languages very often use reflexive forms where we have passives. But the same 'test' applies as regards "to be" used a copula. Thus German "Ich bin es" cannot be replaced by *"man ist ich" nor can French "C'est moi" be replaced by *"Moi, je me suis" - indeed, the latter would be understood to mean "I follow myself" :)
> I can also imagine a language which is > ergative/active/tripartite and has a passive
So can I. -- Ray ================================== ray@carolandray.plus.com http://www.carolandray.plus.com ================================== TRADUTTORE TRADITORE

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