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Re: An arabo-romance conlang?

From:<kam@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 21, 2001, 0:32
On  Mon, 19 Feb 2001 Fabian <lajzar@...> wrote :

> Re: An arabo-romance conlang? >> I was looking for Maltese material on the web but have only found a >> few snippits so far. However, it appears that Maltese developed a >> special class of verbs for Romance loans that wouldn't fit into any >> of the Arabic patterns. If this is true it might provide some >> suggestions for a> suggestions for arabised Romance.
> That's only half-true. Maltese treats italian/english verbs as class 1 > arabic verbs with a weak third (ie final) (ie J, but not W or Gh) > consonant.
<j> = [j], <gh> = Arab. 'ayn ? or ghayn ? or both ??? Could you give some examples, as I don't quite understand how these words were adapted, did the result look Arabic or Romance?
> There are some oddities within this rule, but it generally works. The > exeptions have rules of their own - this is one of the few areas > where Maltese can claim a modicum of regularity.
I didn't realise it was as bad as that.
> btw, who is making this arabesque/romance conlang? And do you want > help? Im kinda partial to Maltese you see.
Christophe, I think, and Steg is looking at doing a Judeo-Romance lang.
>> Another point is that Sicily had a large Arabic speaking population >> at one time, has it left it's mark on the local Romance? Would it be >> a suitable place for an Arabo-Romance to have developed in another >> time-line?
> I can imagine an ATL where Suleiman chooses to invade Sicily instead of > Malta, and ultimately these two islands are united as one more arabic > nation sometime in the modern era. I guess this would result in > 'Sicilo-Maltese' being closer to classical Arabic than present > Maltese, perhaps still written > in Arabic script, perhaps with both scripts in use. The > English vocabulary should be almost non-existant. The final product > would probably sound like > colloquial Libyan. Italian would probably have more Arabic influence, > something like the influence al-Andalus had on Spain, but maybe less so. > mmm... a Maltese nation encompassing Sicily and coastal Libya... nice... > (Hey, we micro-state imperialists can dream can't we?)
> Fabian
Indeed we can and must! But I'm thinking if Hanabal had had a few extra elephants and the Romans hadn't trashed Qart Hadax ... Keith

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Fabian <lajzar@...>