Quoting Isaac Penzev <isaacp@...>:
> Andreas Johansson cazdy:
>
>
> > Cool. I'm going to have some similar loaning going on in some conlang
> or
> other.
>
> Yep. A posteriori conlanging widens your mindframes...
>
> > While at it, I'm told that the Czarist practice of calling the
> Kazakhs
> "Kirgiz"
> > was due to a feeling that _Kazax_ sounded to much like "Cossack" (the
> Russian
> > version of which I can't for the moment recall - "kozak" [k6'zak]?).
> Is this
> > true?
>
> Russian word is |kazak| [kV"zak].
Which still sound alot like _qazaq_ if you can't tell [q] and [k] apart ...
> But I don't think the practice was
> because of
> Czars.
I was using the word "Czarist" losely to refer to things pre-1917 Russian. No
matter, tho'.
> Those nomadic tribes used to call themselves different names, and
> |qazaq|
> just meant "freeman". Kazakh used to call themselves |qyrGyz|, and
> Kyrgyzs -
> |qara qyrGyz| "black Q." They felt to certain extent as if they belonged
> to
> different clans/tribes of one ethnic group/people till the Soviet
> times...
Were there any |aq qyrGyz|?
Andreas