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Re: Genitives NPs as Relative Clauses

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Friday, November 16, 2001, 5:11
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:38:31 +0000, Keith Gaughan <kmgaughan@...>

>In my (English) idiolect, it's not uncommon for me to use genitive >constructions >in the place of relative clauses. Example: > > My idiolect: ...of my seeing... > `Normal English': ...that I see... > >It's not something I always use, and I can't predict when I use it but I do. I >think there's parallel idioms in Irish, but I can't think of any like it off >the top of my head. > >Ok, here's my question. I've been thinking of adapting this idiom for use in >Erëtas but I have doubts as to its scalability. Are there any other languages >that use similar constructions. Just for reference's sake, here's how I intend >on representing direct and indirect relative clauses:
Interestingly, Tirèlhat has been going in that direction. The personal pronouns have become attached to the verbs, and the subject pronouns are identical to the possessive prefixes that get attached to nouns. So these examples turn out as: of my seeing: u lè-lizha-ri GEN my-see -ing that I see: ni lè-lizha-ve-n that 1s-see -(evidential/tense/aspect suffixes)
> Direct relative clause (`that I see'): > ...of my seeing... > > Indirect relative clauses (`that sees me'): > ...with my seeing...
or "of my being seen"? (Tir. "u lèlizharuri"). -- languages of Azir------> ---<>--- hmiller (Herman Miller) "If all Printers were determin'd not to print any email password: thing till they were sure it would offend no body, \ "Subject: teamouse" / there would be very little printed." -Ben Franklin


Keith Gaughan <kmgaughan@...>