Montreiano irregular verbs (long reply)
|From:||Barry Garcia <barry_garcia@...>|
|Date:||Wednesday, August 21, 2002, 9:27|
>What about the use of the future subjunctive? I would expect that it can
>be used as an optative and a conditional.
The future subjunctive generally expresses a wish or desire (optative).
The use is generally similar as in Spanish (the verbal system isnt very
different, differing only really due to phonological differences, and new
verb forms as in the examples I gave.)
Eu uso deu subjuntivo futuro se utiliça generaument pera expresar deseo o
spero. Eu uso es similar deu uso spañou (eu sistema verbau no es muço
diferent, variar solament de diferenças phonologicas e formas verbaus
novas como los ejemplos io di)
>Montreiano clearly looks like an Ibero-Romance conlang to me. Right?
>Yes, exactly. It's a sister language to Spanish and Portuguese, and often
appears as if it's an intermediary between the two.
Si, exactament. La lengua es relaçonao con spañou e portugues, e pareçeu
como si es eu intermeio entre los dos, aveçes.
Ok, the following is way too much for me to translate, but the above gives
you an idea what Montreiano looks like. Now, the con history:
When Spain discovered California in the lat 1600's, it immediately
recognized how wild the territory was (there were no great civilizations
here, primarily mainly nomadic tribes which had general "nations" but
never tended to stay in one spot all year long). So these natives were not
regarded as a threat as they were in Mexico. Another reason for the lax
colonization was the fact that the territory was the furthest west and one
of hte furthest north, and resources needed here all had to be shipped.
Spain decided that they'd open the doors of colonization to anyone who
wished to go, rather than leaving the land alone for about a hundred years
as they did in our timeline (OTL). Montreianos come into the picture here.
Montreianos had always been a fairly large, but opressed minority in
Spain, especially after the reconquista, because they were often of
conversos - muslims and jews who converted due to the penalties if they
hadn't. Many secretly still practiced their old religions in Spain, but
many had become true catholics (well as true as Spain considered them :)).
Many Montreianos had heard that land was available for anyone who wanted
to colonize Alta California (in OTL, HUGE tracts of land were granted by
Spain because there was so much of it), but under one condition, they had
to Christianize the natives.
So, many went abroad to seek their fortunes in Alta California. Colonies
of Montreianos sprung up around the San Francisco, Monterey, and Santa
Barbara areas, spreading as far east as Fresno, north as Sacramento and
Lake Tahoe, and South as far as Owens Valley (i used OTL names because you
can find them on maps ;)). As time went on, Montreianos continued to flood
into these areas, displacing a lot of the other Colonists who came to the
area (Spain was tolerant of the Montreianos doing this because they were
out of their hair -- no more conversos who may "perform treason and
blasphemy against Spain and God").
The first few decades of Colonization were rough. Many supply ships rarely
visited the colonists, and many went local and married into native tribes
in order to survive. Now, this may seem a rosy picture, but the native
tribes who knew how to survive here did help the colonists (who were far
less arrogant due to the fact they knew how it was to be treated as second
class citizens under the new kingdom after the reconquista). Eventually
Spain saw how valuable Alta California was when it was discovered that
Russians were moving south from Alaska into Spanish territory, so a true
port was set up, and a custom house built in Montrei.
Short story of it all: Montrei began to grow and prosper. Not soon after
Montrei became a port, San Francisco became the northerly Presidio
(military reservation). By about the mid 1800's Montreianos outnumbered
Spanish speakers by 5 to 1. Many Montreianos were bilingual in both
Languages anyway, but linguistically Montreianos began to dominate.
When the war of independence broke out with Spain and the Colonies,
Montrei had still not gained independence from Alta California. When the
war of Independence was over, Montreianos, who decided that they'd like
their own nation decided to take up arms against Alta California. This
internal war lasted for several years, while Alta California was fighting
against border skirmishes with Tejas (who constantly tries to seize
disputed territory). The Alta Californios decided that it wasnt worth
trying to fight a battle on two fronts, and decided that the area outlined
already wasnt worth keeping. So, a treaty was signed and the nation of
Montrei formed (sorry for lacking dates, i am too lazy to look them up
right now :)).
So, by the late 1800's Montrei had become it's own nation, and was named
after the renamed capital of Montrei (in Spanish it was Monterey). There
still are some small border skirmishes from time to time, but these are
generally over water rights (a proposed plan to build a canal that would
deliver water to the Los Angeles region from Montrei rivers was shot to
hell quite vociferously by Montreianos in the 1930's). Both countries
remain in a kind of tenuous relationship that is mostly friendly, but
sometimes a bit agressive. Montrei *does* help supply Alta California with
supplies when a battle with Tejas breaks out (mostly food...Montrei has
most of the arable land between the two).
Of course, this is the short, concise history. I haven't built up
specifics, but they generally follow what happened in this timeline with
California (minus the take over by the United States of Course). Hopefully
i got the Ill Bethisad general history right ;).
OTL california history is complex and difficult to explain in a simple
No the moth dont care when he sees the flame
The moth dont care if the flame is real
Cause flame and moth got a sweetheart deal
And nothing fuels a good flirtation
Like need, and anger, and desperation