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Re: Epicene pronoun in english?

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Friday, March 5, 2004, 17:06
At 14:44 5.3.2004, And Rosta wrote:

>That said, single-referent _they/them_ is normally used only >when the sex of the referent is unknown or deliberately >concealed by the speaker. I could not, for instance, say >"I was talking to BP the other day, and they [=BP] told >me...". So the default rule for BrE is that the sex of >the human referent must be specified if known, which is >still not an ideal state of affairs.
That is true also of the Swedish epicene pronoun _den_, which has a long tradition as a personal pronoun for all non-human grammatically non-neuter referents. It's use a an epicene pronoun essentially follows the rules for its use with reference to higher animals, where _den_ would be used if the sex of the animal was not known, or if the animal was not considered as a person (this varies, as we all know). It is funny that _den_ is now perceived as epicene, as it historically derives from the accusative of a masculine demonstrative pronoun (_þann_ = OE _þone_). /BP 8^) -- B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@melroch.se (delete X) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Truth, Sir, is a cow which will give [skeptics] no more milk, and so they are gone to milk the bull." -- Sam. Johnson (no rel. ;)