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Re: What is it we are saying in our languages?

From:John Quijada <jq_ithkuil@...>
Date:Sunday, July 2, 2006, 23:21
Sally Caves wrote:
>In other words, what are we saying that is unique in our languages, >and how do our languages help us *say* something that the world can hear-- >or deem unique? > >How is conlanging itself a kind of message about language?
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It has always been my intention to write philosophical poetry in Ithkuil, i.e., a poem or poems expressing a philosiphical view. Because Ithkuil's raisons d'etre include (1) semantic exactitude and precision, (2) overt expression of actual cognition than natlangs permit, and (3) morpho-phonological conciseness, I believe it to be an excellent vehicle for expressing "heavy" philosophical thoughts and musings in a way that would hinder the speaker/writer from trying to manipulate language metaphorically the way most philosophy is written. (Lakoff and Johnson spend the last part of their 1999 opus "Philosophy in the Flesh" deconstructing various philosopher's writings based on the metaphors they use to convey their ideas). The result being a more "pure" (pardon the metaphor!) expression of philosophical thought that can be judged on its face more objectively than most philosophical writings. (Indeed, of all the comments and adulatory statements I’ve read about Ithkuil from various blogs, bulletin boards, etc. in the last two and a half years, the entry that has meant the most to me was a blog entry by someone posting a derogatory entry about the writings of some apparently postmodern philosopher named DeLeuze. The blogger suggested more or less that if DeLeuze’s work were translated into Ithkuil he’d be exposed for the philosophical charlatan the blogger believed him to be.) At the same time, Ithkuil's incredibly flexible and concise morpho-phonology would allow philosophical thoughts to be conveyed in very unique sorts of words which would allow me to write such philosophical ‘treatises’ as poetry. An example of such a word would be < ierwaqût’ > “characteristic of a single component among the synergistic amalgamation of things.” Alas, the creation of such writings will be all-consuming of my time, and given all the other more short-term items on my to-do list, I doubt I will be able to pursue this idea until I retire.... As for Sally's other question as to how conlanging might be itself a message about language, I feel the most profound answer is probably the simplest...Art. Conlangers simply realize that language itself can be used as an artistic medium, i.e., a way of recreating the world in a personally idealized subjective fashion where the nature of the creation itself offers its own aesthetic and intellectual pleasure to enjoyed and subjective mysteries to be analyzed and dwelt upon. --John Quijada

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