Mi no parla italiano ! (was: Re: No more plural? No, more plural!)

Roger Mills wrote:

>>Ho, wait... I already did! The inalienable possession can't be expressed
>>through a determiner when it's the possession of a rational entity
>>(person and assimilated). You have to say:
>>
>>**the mine friends
> Maybe not so French, but it looks like Italian, Portuguese or Old Spanish to
> me....:-))))))
>
> i miei amici
>
> proteja o nosso bom nome 'protect the our good name'
> de los sos ojos... 'from the his eyes...'
Henrik also wrote so, so I hate you both.  ;-)  I hate to be kicked in
the lower back by ANADEWes.

Maybe it's not a so good idea not to study natlangs' grammars? At least,
I could stop claiming that I don't speak Europaish when I just do it. <g>

Any way, Shaquelingua isn't like Italian because this qualificative
construction applies only to inter-personal relations (e.g. my friends,
my family) which are inalienable according to the shaquean grammar. What
I wrote before was incomplete. So this construction doesn't apply to the
name nor to the eyes.

daji ratas yiri, çakë lojutla keshçäka tir, be çteli ko'zorja.
[daji: ratas Hixi] [CakE 4oju.t4a kez.C3ka tix]
[be: Cde4i ko:'zoxja]

daji       ratas      yiri,
3SG.PROPR  look/eyes  against.POSTP

çakë       lojutla  keshçäka     tir,
1PE.PROPR  moral    family.name  DOTA

be   çteli       ko'zorja
QLT  protection  IMP.FUT=DEFR:2SG

= **Let you make our good family name protected against his look.

(I didn't know who the addressee was so I used a deferential 2SG.)

The qualificative construction works with "friend" as I said before but
the qualificative doesn't carry any marking  of number or gender, only
the "neutral" marking of the circumstantial case.

vo kaji govilä !
[vo: kaji govi43]

vo   kaji       govilä
DEF  1SG.PROPR  friend

= **(from) The mine friend!

And I will keep it this way because --as Tom said-- at least, the
european languages don't make the collective/distributive distinction
the way Shaquelngua does. One too european feature isn't enough to make
Shaquelingua look like european. It still has no verb... And I need to
freeze it, to stop its unstoppable evolution so I can finish writing its
grammar... maybe one day before the end of this century.

tul'xej koçö'rja. [tu4(u)'Zej koCO:'xja] (**Keep on expressing thyself)

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