|From:||Irina Rempt <irina@...>|
|Date:||Thursday, September 27, 2001, 9:53|
On Thursday 27 September 2001 04:21, Yoon Ha Lee wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 26, 2001, at 07:21 PM, Matthew Kehrt wrote:
> > I have a case in my lang, Eviendadhail, which I used to think was
> > ergative, but, after reading more about ergativity, I'm now
> > unsure. This case indicates the thing used to perform the action.
> > For example, I could say, without using this case:
> > Éyaverog silen negeth.
> > which is:
> > The boy killed the jabberwock.
I can't tell from the example whether *that* is ergative. How do you
say "The jabberwock was killed"?
> > Or, I could say:
> > Ilelés éyaverog silen negeth.
> > which is:
> > The boy killed the jabberwock with a sword.
> > This case indicates the sword, that is, the tool used to perform
> > the verb. Does anyone know what this is called, if anything?
> Instrumental, I think? I'm sure some Wiser Member of the List will
> correct me. :-)
Yes, I'd also call that instrumental. In Valdyan:
hanie brachea tylsien trudut
adolescent--nom-s dragon-acc-s sword-ins-s kill-PRT-3s
"The young (wo)man killed the dragon with a sword"
(I almost put "gylsien", which would mean "with a written page" :-)
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