|From:||The Gray Wizard <dbell@...>|
|Date:||Friday, September 28, 2001, 18:02|
> From: Vasiliy Chernov
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 07:26:01 -0400, The Gray Wizard <dbell@...>
> >I don't believe that split-ergativity affects these examples since the
> >is generally along some semantic divide, although some splits could
> >certainly confuse these matters.
> Actually, split-ergativity makes the distinction easier, since there are
> no split passives... or am I wrong?
Depends on the criteria for the split. In my conlang, amman iar, the split
is made along an animacy continuum causing speech-act pronouns to take a
The girl-ERG kiss-ACT the boy-ABS "The girl kissed the boy."
The boy-ABS kiss-PASS (the girl-INS) "The boy was kissed (by the girl)."
You-NOM kiss-ACT the boy-ABS "You kissed the boy."
The boy-ABS kiss-PASS (you-INS) "The boy was kissed (by you)."
The girl-ERG kiss-ACT I-ACC "The girl kissed me."
I-NOM kiss-PASS (the girl-INS) "I was kissed (by you)."
You-NOM kiss-ACT I-ACC "You kissed me.)
I-NOM kill-PASS (you-INS) "I was kissed (by you)."
If you coupled this with an ERG/INS conflation (and perhaps a ACC/INS
conflation?? Hmmm?), I think you wind up with the same level of ambiguity.
David E. Bell
The Gray Wizard
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