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GROUPLANG: Phonetics

From:Pablo Flores <fflores@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 14, 1998, 23:48
Carlos Thompson wrote:
> >The phonetics, as propossed this far, is: > >basic sounds: >vouels: /a/, /e/, /i/, /o/, /u/, /y/ >consonants: >/p/ /b/ /t/ /d/ /k/ /g/ /q/ /q_voiced/ >/f/ /v/ /s/ /z/ /x/ /G/ /h/ > /m/ /n/ /N/ > /w/ /r/ /l/ /j/ >
Actually, we've discussed to drop /h/, mainly because it didn't quite fit into the system. We could do with /x/, variants [x] and [h]. Dropping <h> would also allow us to use all the h-digraphs without problems. Not only <kh>, <gh>, <qh> (which are invalid clusters, tho) but also <nh> for /N/. If we keep /h/ = <h>, we'll have to write <ng> or there'll be an ambiguity. Note that <ng> for /N/ is not ambiguous; /ng/ could be written <ngg>, because syllable-final nasals assimilate to the next place of articulation.
>With the following orthography: all those sounds above, with lowercase >letters in IPA will use the IPA value, but "x": a, b, d, e, f, g, i, j, k, >l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, y, z > >The other sounds are: /x/ as <kh> or <x>, /G/ as <gh>, /q_voiced/ as <qh> or ><qg>, /N/ as <nh> or <ng>, /h_voiced/ >
Let's decide about <h> and then I'll tell you :-)
>No values this far for <c> and <x>.
<c> could be /q_voiced/, but it's not very intuitive... <x> could be /x/, but I think it's better to keep <kh> and <gh> (they are more "mnemonic", and symmetrical). [snip]
>Because of the VV posibility in a syllabe, in composing (or in adding >affixes) there could rise V-V combinations. The posibilities are: > >Avoid V-V combinations forcing C and F in every root. >Asimilate V-V as a VV diphthong (even ae, ao, oe, etc.) >Use something (both phonetically and orthographic to mark an hiatus, maybe a >dieresis or an apostrophe) >insert a sound, either a glide or a glotal stop. > >I vote for a glide in root combination and asimilation fo V-V into VV for >affixes. >
I vote for a glide in root combination AND for affixes. I don't think we should force the roots to have any special form. --Pablo Flores