Re: OT-ish:Conlang Census

Mark J. Reed wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 08:33:05PM -0600, James Worlton wrote:
>
>>Depends on who you ask :) We consider the church to be the
>>religion/denomination (I do at least). We call ourselves Christians--as
>>in a name for those who believe in Jesus Christ--but not necessarily
>>"Christian", or belonging among the large variety of denominations found
>>under that name. That's how I see things anyway.
>
>
> Well, that's fine, and the LDS beliefs certainly set it apart from
> the rest of Christendom; but it's still the church that is a subset of
> Christianity rather than the reverse.  There's no such thing as a
> non-Christian Mormon; it's a contradiction in terms.  Jesus' name is
> right there in the name of the organization. :)
>
> You could say that your religion is the CJCLDS and your denomination is N/A,
> since the church has no real denominations,
I did say that in my original post.

  or you could say that your
> religion is Christianity and your denomination is the CJCLDS,
That works for me too, but that would be denied by any other Christian
denomination, as they don't recognize our church as Christian.

  but I don't think
> it makes sense to say that your religion is the CJCLDS and your
> denomination is Christian. :)
>
I see your point, although I didn't mean to imply that was the case. I
was making the point that our use of the term 'Christian' for ourselves
does not try to group us with the set of Christian denominations. If
they consider us as Christians, then I'm sure we don't mind being
included in that set of denominations--but if they don't it doesn't
change the way we think about it.

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James Worlton
          "We know by means of our intelligence
          that what the intelligence does not
          comprehend is more real than what it
          does comprehend."
                           --Simone Weil