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Re: OT: Origin of names (WAS: Re: Proto-Uralic?)

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Saturday, June 28, 2003, 7:20
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From: "Andreas Johansson" <andjo@...>
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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: Origin of names (WAS: Re: Proto-Uralic?)


> Quoting Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...>: > > > Decsy also confuses the historical linguistics term "proto-language" > > with the homonymous term in language origins studies, claims that > > Proto-Uralic had no more than the 400-something words he > > "reconstructed", and that the speakers of Proto-Uralic did not use > > names (an anthropological impossibility; and that even though > > he "reconstructs" a PU word for "name"). > > Which reminds me; what are the orthodox ideas on when and why people
started
> to use names? > > About ten years ago, our teacher read a kid's book aloud in class, which
was
> set in the stone age, and IIRC pretty good if you weren't to concerned
with
> (pre-)historical plausibility*. The characters had names like "Mu" and
"Ba",
> which brings me to what I found odd - in a little introductory note, it
was
> explained that this was because scientists believe that the first human
names
> were short, simple ones. If this really is the opinion of researchers into > human origin, I'd very much like to know what reasoning underlies is. > > It may be noted that the society described in the book appeared to be > Neolithic - presumably names must've been in use for a very long time by
then?
> > * I usually find myself unable to appreciate historical novels and movies, > because I tend to react very badly at historical inaccuracies, and know
enough
> history to notice things like 1400s armour in a film supposed to be set in
the
> 1200s.
I'd expect names were originally descriptions of the person in question...
> Andreas > > PS For the record, I have no recollection of the book's title, nor of the
name
> of the author. I paid very little attention to the names of the authors of
the
> books I read in those days. >