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Re: names for cases

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Tuesday, March 28, 2006, 6:05
Roger Mills skrev:
> BP Jonsson wrote: > >>I looked up the Latin translations of the English translations of >>my new Kijeb cases, in the hope of finding names for the cases: >> >>"across" 'transversus, trans'. Transversive?, tho Wikipedia >> <http://tinyurl.com/ror2k> suggests _prosecutive_. >> >>"respectively" 'alius...alius'; perhaps not a good candidate for a >>case! >> >>"on top" obviously 'super'. _Superessive_ >><http://tinyurl.com/sys29> seems OK. >> >>"under", "in under" both 'sub', but _sublative_ <http://tinyurl.com/rebyf> >> seems to mean something else. >> >>"outside" 'extra' -- _extraessive_? >> >>"before" 'ante', so _antetemporal_ seems in order. >> >>"after" 'post', so _posttemporal_? >> > > I won't get into the Name Game, but don't several of these need to > distinguish _location at_ vs. _movement to_ (and before~in > front/after~behind also need to distinguish _time_). Or can things like > that be handled on the verb? > > E.g. "the cat jumped [while] on top of the table" is /= "the cat jumped on > (to) top of the table."
Yeah, I'll end up with a *lot* of cases for different motions and locations. I'm probably better off having noun roots for "top, inside, underside, outside, backside" etc. and construct them with simple spatial cases + genitive (or dative?[1]) of the main noun, which then develop to postpositions in the daughter langs. After all there should be *some* adpositions! [1] Just last night I found a cool thing I may snatch: head-marking possessive or whatever it should be called, e.g. "the boy his-bicycle". Colloquial German and Norwegian do this, BTW: "Der Junge sein Fahrrad". I'm not quite sure of the scope of the Norwegian construction, i.e. which dependents it can be used with. Taliesin? Anyway it will be somewhat different in Kijeb, since there the possessive pronoun will be a clitic/affix of the head noun. -- /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch at melroch dot se "Maybe" is a strange word. When mum or dad says it it means "yes", but when my big brothers say it it means "no"! (Philip Jonsson jr, age 7)

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