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Re: Tagalog & trigger idea: I'd like comments. :)

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Monday, November 22, 2004, 18:56
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 08:32:47PM -0500, John Cowan wrote:
> H. S. Teoh scripsit: > > > I agree. If we drop the expectation that voice systems should have one > > predominantly preferred voice, and that "active" and "passive" are a > > necessary subset of the voices, then Tagalog fits the mold quite well. > > Well, the trouble is that almost all voice systems are about demoting a > particular NP role to non-core (passive, antipassive) or making it > impossible altogether (some kinds of middle). There are systems with > an inverse voice, but they're rare. So if Tagalog has a voice system, > it's a very atypical one.
[...] True. As the thesis in one of Tim's URLs[1] postulated, Tagalog's system is a "symmetrical voice system". It also mentions that Kwakwala, an Amerindian NW coast language, also has a similar symmetrical voice system. AFAIK, Kwakwala is not related to Tagalog, so symmetrical voice systems aren't as unique as one might expect. [1] http://www.sultry.arts.usyd.edu.au/LFG98/austro/foley/fintro.htm T -- There's light at the end of the tunnel. It's the oncoming train.