Re: Tagalog & trigger idea: I'd like comments. :)
|From:||H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>|
|Date:||Monday, November 22, 2004, 18:56|
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 08:32:47PM -0500, John Cowan wrote:
> H. S. Teoh scripsit:
> > I agree. If we drop the expectation that voice systems should have one
> > predominantly preferred voice, and that "active" and "passive" are a
> > necessary subset of the voices, then Tagalog fits the mold quite well.
> Well, the trouble is that almost all voice systems are about demoting a
> particular NP role to non-core (passive, antipassive) or making it
> impossible altogether (some kinds of middle). There are systems with
> an inverse voice, but they're rare. So if Tagalog has a voice system,
> it's a very atypical one.[...]
True. As the thesis in one of Tim's URLs postulated, Tagalog's
system is a "symmetrical voice system". It also mentions that
Kwakwala, an Amerindian NW coast language, also has a similar
symmetrical voice system. AFAIK, Kwakwala is not related to Tagalog,
so symmetrical voice systems aren't as unique as one might expect.
There's light at the end of the tunnel. It's the oncoming train.