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Re: Medio-passive (was: A Survey)

From:Costentin Cornomorus <elemtilas@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 1, 2003, 22:12
--- Ray Brown <ray.brown@...> wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 12:31 , > Costentin Cornomorus wrote: > > > --- Rob Haden <magwich78@...> wrote: > > > >>> Active - Robert cooks (the soup). > >>> Middle - The soup cooks. > >>> Passive - The soup is being cooked (by > >>> Robert). > >> > >> It seems to me that the Middle and Passive > >> examples are more closely > >> related to each other than either are to the > >> Active. > > > > That's often the way of it. In IE languages, > > the passive developed from the middle, for > > example. > > Yep - the evidence from ancient Greek & > Sanskrit point to > PIE having an active and a medio-passive voice. > There is no evidence of distinct passive.
What's more, -r seems to be a common sign of that voice. Celtic and archaic Latin have -ter (I think) and -tur for the impersonal (passive in later Latin). Hittite has -ri (eshari = he sits (himself)); Tocharian has -r (säkatär = spreads (itself) out). Padraic. ===== - Ke goueneremos dois Noeves, lis Apossoeil et lis Martheir; ke merite-nos la perdunació per y sew oriacèn - A Ddon ten mezer! -- Ill Bethisad -- <http://www.geocities.com/elemtilas/ill_bethisad> Come visit The World! -- <http://www.geocities.com/hawessos/> .

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