Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8)

From: "David Barrow" <davidab@...>
Subject: Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8)


> > > [j@ mVD@ w@z@ h&mst@ n= dj@ fA:D@ smEut@v Eud@bEriz]
> > >
> > > [w@z@ h&mst@] can also be [w@zn= &mst@] with h dropping
> > >
> > > [n= dj@] or [n= j@] or even [n= dZ@]
> >
> > "Yuh mutha wuzzen amsta india fottha smote of odaberries."
> >
> > For me, /dj/ always becomes /dZj/, just as /tj/ > /tSj/.  That's why
writing
> > something to be pronounced [n=dj@] is hard.  Do you not have any L
sound?
>
> smote? odaberries?
>
> I think you're confusing [Eu] with [@U]
No, I understand how [Eu] sounds, as well as [@U].  If I saw "smote" or
"oda", I'd pronounce the vowel as [ou].  I couldn't think of any way of
spelling [Eu], as it's not a combination I ever use in English.  [ou] was
the closest I could find.

> india?
"india" for [n=dj@]?
"india" sounds like [Indi@]
So how would I spell [n=dj@]?  This is a problem.  First, I don't have any
initial [n=] in my dialect, so I'm approximating it for spelling with [In],
[I] being the vowel that sounds closest to [n] to my mind.  Then there's the
[dj] > [dZj] that takes place in my dialect.  So in order to get [dj], I'm
using [di], which is pretty close.

> fottha for fA:D@ very American; we would never use |o| for [A:]
How about "hot" or "rock" or "Scott"?  How do you pronounce those?  The
vowel of "father" is definitely an [a] for me, distinct from [A], so I need
to make it clear that the word I'm trying to write is [fAD@], not [faD@].

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