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Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8)

From:David Barrow <davidab@...>
Date:Tuesday, May 27, 2003, 4:51
Joseph Fatula wrote:

> From: "David Barrow" <davidab@...> > Subject: Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8) > > > > > [j@ mVD@ w@z@ h&mst@ n= dj@ fA:D@ smEut@v Eud@bEriz] > > > > > > > > [w@z@ h&mst@] can also be [w@zn= &mst@] with h dropping > > > > > > > > [n= dj@] or [n= j@] or even [n= dZ@] > > > > > > "Yuh mutha wuzzen amsta india fottha smote of odaberries." > > > > > > For me, /dj/ always becomes /dZj/, just as /tj/ > /tSj/. That's why > writing > > > something to be pronounced [n=dj@] is hard. Do you not have any L > sound? > > > > smote? odaberries? > > > > I think you're confusing [Eu] with [@U] > > No, I understand how [Eu] sounds, as well as [@U]. If I saw "smote" or > "oda", I'd pronounce the vowel as [ou]. I couldn't think of any way of > spelling [Eu], as it's not a combination I ever use in English. [ou] was > the closest I could find.
would smeoot and eoodaberries work?
> > > > india? > > "india" for [n=dj@]? > "india" sounds like [Indi@] > So how would I spell [n=dj@]? This is a problem. First, I don't have any > initial [n=] in my dialect, so I'm approximating it for spelling with [In], > [I] being the vowel that sounds closest to [n] to my mind. Then there's the > [dj] > [dZj] that takes place in my dialect. So in order to get [dj], I'm > using [di], which is pretty close.
If you had to include a vowel with a final syllabic "n" would it also be |i| what about [dy] indya endya andya undya? my |i| is not consonantal in the way my |y| is.
> > > fottha for fA:D@ very American; we would never use |o| for [A:] > > How about "hot" or "rock" or "Scott"? How do you pronounce those? The > vowel of "father" is definitely an [a] for me, distinct from [A], so I need > to make it clear that the word I'm trying to write is [fAD@], not [faD@].
the o is [Q] in the three. Is your "ah" [a] or [A] how about fahtha? David Barrow

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Joseph Fatula <fatula3@...>