Joseph Fatula wrote:
> From: "David Barrow" <davidab@...>
> Subject: Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8)
>
> > > > [j@ mVD@ w@z@ h&mst@ n= dj@ fA:D@ smEut@v Eud@bEriz]
> > > >
> > > > [w@z@ h&mst@] can also be [w@zn= &mst@] with h dropping
> > > >
> > > > [n= dj@] or [n= j@] or even [n= dZ@]
> > >
> > > "Yuh mutha wuzzen amsta india fottha smote of odaberries."
> > >
> > > For me, /dj/ always becomes /dZj/, just as /tj/ > /tSj/. That's why
> writing
> > > something to be pronounced [n=dj@] is hard. Do you not have any L
> sound?
> >
> > smote? odaberries?
> >
> > I think you're confusing [Eu] with [@U]
>
> No, I understand how [Eu] sounds, as well as [@U]. If I saw "smote" or
> "oda", I'd pronounce the vowel as [ou]. I couldn't think of any way of
> spelling [Eu], as it's not a combination I ever use in English. [ou] was
> the closest I could find.
would smeoot and eoodaberries work?
>
>
> > india?
>
> "india" for [n=dj@]?
> "india" sounds like [Indi@]
> So how would I spell [n=dj@]? This is a problem. First, I don't have any
> initial [n=] in my dialect, so I'm approximating it for spelling with [In],
> [I] being the vowel that sounds closest to [n] to my mind. Then there's the
> [dj] > [dZj] that takes place in my dialect. So in order to get [dj], I'm
> using [di], which is pretty close.
If you had to include a vowel with a final syllabic "n" would it also be |i|
what about [dy] indya endya andya undya? my |i| is not consonantal in the way my
|y| is.
>
> > fottha for fA:D@ very American; we would never use |o| for [A:]
>
> How about "hot" or "rock" or "Scott"? How do you pronounce those? The
> vowel of "father" is definitely an [a] for me, distinct from [A], so I need
> to make it clear that the word I'm trying to write is [fAD@], not [faD@].
the o is [Q] in the three.
Is your "ah" [a] or [A] how about fahtha?
David Barrow