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Re: How to Make Chicken Cacciatore (was: phonetics by guesswork)

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Friday, July 23, 2004, 19:26
Quoting Muke Tever <hotblack@...>:

> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:20:26 -0400, J. 'Mach' Wust <j_mach_wust@...> > wrote: > > I think that this might be the difference between allophones and > > archiphonemes (a term I didn't know before): archiphonemes are a notion > > that tries to reconciliate the different phonemic systems of the > > different dialects of a language, saving thus the unity of the language. > > Specifically an 'archiphoneme' refers to places where the underlying > phoneme can't be pinned down due to neutralization. (This could be within > a dialect as well as cross-dialectally.) For example an archiphoneme > covers certain nasals before certain consonants in English: some might say > it is difficult to prove whether the [n] in <bend> is actually an /n/ > underlyingly[1]
Never heard that one, but I've seen it argued that the [N] in "think" is an /n/. Can't recall what the supposed benefit of that interpretation is - offhand, I guess one might try and eliminate the /N/ phoneme wholly by interpreting syllable-final [N] as /ng/. Andreas

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