Re: How to Make Chicken Cacciatore (was: phonetics by guesswork)

Quoting Trebor Jung <treborjung@...>:

> Andreas wrote: "A pecularity of Swedish 'j' and 'v' is that a vowel
> preceeding the former (within the same morpheme) is always short, and one
> preceeding the later is always long. The only exception I can think of in my
> 'lect is the loan _kaviar_ ['kavjar`]."
>
> Swedish has retroflexes? Swedish has retroflexes!
>
> ...
>
> Does this prove the Swedish-Chinese link?
>
> ;)
>
> Or is [r`] only phonetic? :| Oh well, at least there are the tones...
Most varieties realize r+dental sequences as single retroflexes. There's,
however, good reasons to consider this a surface phenomenon, and that we on the
phonemic level still have clusters.

In some varieties, moreover, /r/ outside these clusters is realized as a
retroflex - in my 'lect, as a trill, approximate or fricative depending on
register and position. In others, it's alveolar or uvular.

                                           Andreas