Re: How to Make Chicken Cacciatore (was: phonetics by guesswork)

Philip Newton wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:20:00 -0700, Garth Wallace <gwalla@...> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm still trying to figure out why the keyboards I make with Layout
>>Manager screw up control codes. Nothing in the documentation says
>>anything about that, other than that redefining Control+key sequences
>>for additional characters interferes with control commands, but I didn't
>>do that.
>
>
> Well, you use AltGr ... which I believe is emulated with Ctrl+Alt on
> keyboards that lack AltGr (i.e. that treat "left Alt" and "right Alt"
> the same). I wonder whether that's got anything to do with it. And you
> use Shift+AltGr, which is kind of like Ctrl+Alt+Shift...
All keyboards treat left and right alt differently (in fact, any two
keboards that differ only by the labels and other irrelevant things are
probably much the same, even if one has 42 special keys (control, alt,
altgr, command, option, shift, meta, hyper, super, windows, square,
circle, diamond, compose and twenty-eight others) and the other only has
two controls, two alts and two shifts.

As I understand it, rather than inventing a new special key internally,
Windows (and perhaps DOS, OS/2, ReactOS) causes keymaps that have altgr
to emulate it with ctrl+alt i.e. pressing the altgr key is equivalent to
pressing alt+ctrl. Thus, pressing shift+altgr causes Windows to do the
same things as if the user had really pressed shift+ctrl+alt.

Other operating environments such as the X Windows Systems commonly used
on GNU/Linux, as far as I know, treat (or have the capacity to treat)
altgr as a primative special key, same as alt, ctrl, shift, meta, hyper, ...

Which might be kinda what you said (or meant to say), but isn't really...

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