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Re: USAGE: English Usage: "THEY"

From:Muke Tever <hotblack@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 3:23
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:03:04 -0400, John Cowan <jcowan@...> wrote:
>> > "I was reading Frankenstein the other day, and they >> > talk a lot about electricity in the introduction to >> > this version" >> >> If a student comes to the third floor without a pass, they must return >> to the campus service center so that they may obtain one. > > These are fundamentally different examples, though, because in the > first version "they" is specific (the author of the introduction); > in the second, "they" is generic.
Introductions being introductions, though, it's likely that the reader of Frankenstein didn't bother to remember the author of the introduction, much less their gender.
>> I LIKE that "they" is becoming an epicene pronoun. > > But we still don't have sentences like "John went to the store; > then they went to the office." That has to be "he" (or if the > facts warrant it, "she").
The gender of a John is likely to be known before one can make narrative statements about them. Online it can be somewhat different, and one can make all sorts of statements about a specific named person using "they" when gender isn't evident. I believe "they" can also be used for, for example, neuter animates like bots in chat rooms. *Muke! -- website: http://frath.net/ LiveJournal: http://kohath.livejournal.com/ deviantArt: http://kohath.deviantart.com/ FrathWiki, a conlang and conculture wiki: http://wiki.frath.net/

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