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Re: New project of mine

From:Pavel Iosad <pavel_iosad@...>
Date:Friday, May 10, 2002, 13:09
Hello Jan,

> What reminds me: Jan could be either Jan Havlis or me.
Oops :-)
> > The principality (I am yet to think out the name and > things, you know) > > continues until it is conquered by Mindaugas of Lithuania, and it is > > subjugated by Lithuania and then Poland for some three centuries. At > > that time the language experiences a heavy Lithuanian > influence, mainly > > in the lexicon, of course. > > Don't forget that the state language of the Grand Duchy of > Lithuania in those > days was not Lithuanian, but Old-Belorussian; Lithuanian was > still a typical > peasants' thing.
I did remember this (after writing the last post tho', I have to admit). But there's a way around. (though I'm not too sure of this Old Belorussian - I guess it was some kind of a transitive thing - some kind of heavily Polonized South-West Russian. I fancy it goes under the pseudonym of 'prosta mowa', which became Lithuania's literary language (instead of South-West Russian Church Slavonic) until the Union with Poland). The point in my language is that the areas where it was spoken was not in contact with any Slavonic tribes, and the language mingling resulted because of the influx of the Lithanian-speaking populace, which wasn't there before the subjugation - the community surrounded by a (more or less) homegenous Baltic entity was ever apart and hardly any mingling resulted. With the disappearance of the border the Lithuanians moved into the area, so now the eastern rural dialects hold a more Lithuanian flavour, including SVO word order, versus the more conservative western dialects (which are the basis for the literary language - the richest port towns are there) where the old Finnic SOV has held out. It's a strange thing, I admit, that the rural dialects be less conservative than the townlands' speech, but such is life :-)
> > In phonology, the Finnic substrate did not allow the > development of the > > palatalization correlation. However, the first > palatalization of velars > > did take place whie the Slavonic population was still > distinct. However, > > the Finns cannot cope with [tS] and [dZ], which they do > substitute for > > [t_j] and [d_j]. Slavic *tj and *dj also yield these. > > Fair enough.
Good to know :-) So 'furnace' would be _piet'e_. [details snipped] Thanks, Pavel -- Pavel Iosad 'I am a philologist, and thus a misunderstood man' --JRR Tolkien, _The Notion Club Papers_