Re: Just a Little Taste of Judean (Part 2)

On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:20:26 -0400 Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> writes:
>Tom Wier wrote:
>> Yeah, from "ille, illa, illud".  My Latin's pretty rusty, but I'm
>pretty sure
>> that Spanish "esta" etc. descend from another Latin demonstrative,
>> "iste".
>Si.  And "ese", etc. derives from _ipse_ (as in "ipso facto"), and
>_aquel_, etc. comes from _ecce ille_, a stronger form of _ille_.
>Incidentally, Latin for _this_, _hoc_, died out except for the word
>for
>"today", _hoy_ < _hoye_ < _hodie_ < _hoc die_ (on this day).  Very
>nicely distorted, the only remnant of _die_ isn't even a syllable,
>just
>/j/.
>--
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>
Wait...so how many Latin words are there for "this" ?  Tom said "ille,
illa, illud" are the forms of "this" where e'l, la, il, elle, etc. come
from, so then what happened to _hoc_?

Hmm...._hoc_ is strangely similar to _ha-_  :)

So, let's see...in Judean _hoc_ would be pronounced [hox].  And if the
[x] gets absorbed before other consonants, there could be:
(using the previous possible words)

_the "puella"_ >> _hoppele_

and lets say there was some word _*ette:ban_ [Es'teBan],
_the *ette:ban_ >> _hocette:ban_

And because another vowel follows the {c}, it becomes hard [k], making
[hokEsteBan].

Any problems?


-Stephen (Steg)
 "God punishes - humans take revenge."

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