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Re: YAEPT alert! [Re: Not phonetic but ___???]

From:Isaac Penzev <isaacp@...>
Date:Saturday, April 17, 2004, 20:55
Trebor Jung wrote:

<<"As for the difference, it's similar to the difference between the
vowels in
"eat" and "it" (I hope you do hear that difference).
Philippe might know the difference; he speaks Russian. Or is it Polish
that
has the distinction?>>

Neither Russian nor Polish makes distinction between [i] and [I]. They
have [i] vs. [i\] opposition. In Russian the distinction is not
phonemic: [i\] is a phone after "hard" (non-palatalised) consonants, and
[i] after "soft" (palatalised) ones. Don't know phonemic analysis for
Polish. Ukrainian has /i/ vs. /I/ opposition, but in reality /I/ is
usually something between [I] and [E].

Almost ObConlang: We had no course in General Theoretical Phonetics at
our department at the University, but what I got at General Linguistics
course was enough for me to learn to hear and reproduce most of IPA
chart. So I feel free to make strange noises in my conlangs even if I
have no such sounds in my L1.

-- Yitzik