Re: YAEPT alert! [Re: Not phonetic but ___???]
From: | Isaac Penzev <isaacp@...> |
Date: | Saturday, April 17, 2004, 20:55 |
Trebor Jung wrote:
<<"As for the difference, it's similar to the difference between the
vowels in
"eat" and "it" (I hope you do hear that difference).
Philippe might know the difference; he speaks Russian. Or is it Polish
that
has the distinction?>>
Neither Russian nor Polish makes distinction between [i] and [I]. They
have [i] vs. [i\] opposition. In Russian the distinction is not
phonemic: [i\] is a phone after "hard" (non-palatalised) consonants, and
[i] after "soft" (palatalised) ones. Don't know phonemic analysis for
Polish. Ukrainian has /i/ vs. /I/ opposition, but in reality /I/ is
usually something between [I] and [E].
Almost ObConlang: We had no course in General Theoretical Phonetics at
our department at the University, but what I got at General Linguistics
course was enough for me to learn to hear and reproduce most of IPA
chart. So I feel free to make strange noises in my conlangs even if I
have no such sounds in my L1.
-- Yitzik