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Re: NATLANG: Colors

From:Javier BF <uaxuctum@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 21, 2004, 22:05
>Oh, I just remembered one. One universal (and I'm pretty sure this is a >universal) is that a language will have *at most* 11 *basic* color terms
That's the most easily and obviously refutable of Berlin and Kay's bold claims.
>There's apparently psychological evidence from Russian, though, to argue
for Russian
>having 12 basic color terms, where one color (I don't know the words)
refers
>to light blue, and another refers to dark blue. I don't know how they
tested
>this (I mean, aside from the fact that the terms are morphologically
basic),
>but it apparently holds that neither of these blues is the more basic
blue,
>and that these are just as morphologically and cognitively basic as, say,
red,
>black, yellow, white, etc.
That's it. Trying to impose the limit of 11 was simply an unsupportable and clearly biassed whim of B&K, whose purpose was seemingly to establish the 11-term system of their mother tongue English as "perfect". If their mother tongue had been Russian, I'm sure they would have claimed there are 12 universal basic colour categories instead of 11. Cheers, Javier