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Re: NATLANG: Colors

From:Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 21, 2004, 11:21
From: David Peterson

> Oh, I just remembered one. One universal (and I'm pretty sure this is a
universal) is that a language will have
> *at most* 11 *basic* color terms (obviously, a language like English has
an infinite amount, since the class is
> open [i.e., if I say "Denver Nuggets blue", all you need to know is that
the Denver Nuggets is a basketball
> team, and that their logo and uniforms have a particular type of blue to
know the color I'm referring to], but it
> has only 11 *basic* color terms [I forget what the evidence for their
being basic was]). There's apparently
> psychological evidence from Russian, though, to argue for Russian having
12 basic color terms, where one
> color (I don't know the words) refers to light blue, and another refers to
dark blue. I don't know how they
> tested this (I mean, aside from the fact that the terms are
morphologically basic), but it apparently holds that
> neither of these blues is the more basic blue, and that these are just as
morphologically and cognitively basic
> as, say, red, black, yellow, white, etc.
The twelve color words in Russian are: белый /b'eli/j/ "white" чёрный /tS'orni\j/ "black" красный /krasni\j/ "red" зеленый /z'el'eni\j/ "green" желтый /Zelti\j/ "yellow" синый /s'ini\j/ "dark blue" голубой /goluboj/ "light blue" коричневый /kor'itSn'evi\j/ "brown" серый /s'eri\j/ "gray" розовый /rozovi\j/ "pink, rose" оранжевый /oranZevi\j/ "orange" фиолетовый /fiol'etovi\j/ "purple, violet" Nine native, three borrowed. Two words that translate to "blue" in English. I want all twelve of these for my conlangs. I also use these names for twelve personality types in my philosophical theory. Don't know how to say "Denver Nuggets blue" in Russian though.