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Re: Re : Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis

From:Ed Heil <edheil@...>
Date:Friday, October 15, 1999, 23:46
I'm not sure that it's impossible to think abstractly without
language.  It's pretty difficult to communicate abstractions without
language, though.

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Ed doesn't know everything, but he hasn't figured that out yet.
Please break it to him gently.              edheil@postmark.net
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Nik Taylor wrote:

> "From Http://Members.Aol.Com/Lassailly/Tunuframe.Html" wrote: > > i agree with you 100%. > > i think a different cultural background makes you think different, > > but a different language doesn't. > > Doesn't make you *think* different. Language allows one to think > abstractly. In that, I'm reminded of an analogy I read once, but it was > originally in a religious book, speaking of culture's effect on how you > view the Bible. > > Anyhoo, this author said that he has a very strong prescription for his > eyeglasses. Without glasses, he can hardly see at all, but they distort > his peripheral vision. In the same way, without language, you cannot > think abstractly, but language can distort the way you view certain > things, thus *indirectly* affecting your worldview. In addition, > language can help shape culture by making it more difficult to discuss > some concepts, and easier to discuss others. If a language lacked words > for concepts like "freedom", it would be difficult to discuss them. > > -- > "Cats are rather delicate creatures and they are subject to a good many > ailments, but I never heard of one who suffered from insomnia." -- > Joseph Wood Krutch > http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/X-Files/ > http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Books.html > ICQ #: 18656696 > AIM screen-name: NikTailor >